1:21:05 MetaBeast @AKCMetaBeast: So opt... Optimistic roll ups was... Optimistic roll ups is a term that was coined by Optimism. Right? Because they were the first one to create an optimistic roll up. But then all these, yeah, sort of, l two chains that wanted to use the OP stack could use the the open source stack that Optimism developed so people could launch their own, Optimistic Rollups. But what Soon did is we forked, the OP stack, and we…

1:23:03 Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. And feel like... Feel free to post it, like, to the top. Here's the one thing I do remember, like, when I was thinking about... When I was learning about optimistic roll ups versus, like, ZK, there was... They used to... There was... Because ZK is a little bit more, like, intensive. Right? It takes a lot more resources, but it's a lot more proof worthy. Right? Like, the mathematic... Like, the math behind…

1:24:11 Dave @DCBK2LA: I'm actually gonna direct this towards Brett. Brett, it, like, d gen then? Is soon, d gen?