0:38:22 Kool @koolcryptovc: Yeah. You finish first, and I'll and I'll and I'll do the the the headlines I have. Yeah.

0:38:26 Dave @DCBK2LA: You got it, man. You got it. You got it. So the cofounder of building on Bitcoin, Alexey Zamyatin, discussed the Bitcoin ecosystem, right, all these different hybrids and layer twos. And he aims to make Bitcoin obviously more useful on chain is what it says by leveraging Ethereum's ecosystem. Right? So it's like some of us that are in the stacks ecosystem, like, we have to kinda step outside this, like, I don't…

0:40:44 Kool @koolcryptovc: Yes. I I do I do agree with you that there is a lot of work that needs to be done on the Bitcoin ecosystem. I I think that... I I like when people in Bitcoin are honest with with what's in front of them. You don't you don't wanna, you know, give people kinda, like, false information, but, you know, it... The difference between the Ethereum and the Bitcoin ecosystem is the Ethereum ecosystem is almost like a build…