0:12:52 Kool @koolcryptovc: They they... Murad, same thing, bro. You said it in public. Murad, nobody knew who he was. This dude became an overnight celebrity. He was... He he wasn't even hosting space. Right? He was he was being invited to everybody's space. He was invited to the biggest crypto conferences in in in in in the world, man. I I... As a keynote speaker. I mean, this dude, what... He blew up, man. Even in... His social media blew…

0:13:51 Dave @DCBK2LA: You wanna know something? I I actually watched his his keynote at token twenty forty nine when I went to Singapore, like, a year and a half ago. It was it was... Bro, the guy the guy came out. He was literally a celebrity, bro. He had more groupies around him. I was like, what is going on here? Like, this guy's got, like, the long, greasy hair. Like, what am I doing wrong with my life?

0:14:11 Kool @koolcryptovc: I can remember on on on this... On spaces, man. This dude, everybody went to invite him, ask him questions. The funny thing is he's probably not wrong. Right? Because even though his portfolio is down, like, 90 some percent, there's a possibility he could come back, man. That's that's the thing about, you know, training sports versus leverage. I mean, there's still hope, but it's just it's just insane to me that he…