0:21:52 Dave @DCBK2LA (speaker unconfirmed): Like, are we are we we... Like, are we, like, really kidding ourselves, like, with all this fluff of we're early we're early. Like, this really makes me... Are we just really in, like, this silo where, like, we're just literally yelling at each other and and and telling each other, like, yeah. We're gonna make it. Nobody's... Not everybody's gonna make it, but, like, the outside world is not really hip to this…

0:23:20 NatNat @Natnatx007 (speaker unconfirmed): Yeah. It is. And I... With regards to stats itself, I do really believe we're early, man. I re... From... Based on my experience in markets in general, everything works in cycles. So right now, we do have the meme cycles, but at some point, people are going to cycle out of the memes and get into the solid projects. And I really do believe at that point, we'll see stacks and all the other altcoin and layer twos go…

0:23:51 Dave @DCBK2LA (speaker unconfirmed): These layer twos, I mean... But, like, I thought that was such a fascinating statistic. It was like, holy shit. He's right. And they pay out at, like, 9%. And I was talking to two devs, the and the devs were telling me they were like, what incentive do... Like, what incentive, like, does anybody have to actually build on this chain right now if unless you can actually... Like, you have to factor in some sort of…