1:09:02 Dave @DCBK2LA: the day. I'm not... Like Yes. Like, okay. Minimize, like, the trust and blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, great. But give me the best return possible. Like, what kind of returns are people seeing?

1:09:12 Jacob Phillips @JacobPPhillips: Yeah. Definitely. So in the Lumber DeFi vault, I think it's earning somewhere between 47% right now, which which is is is pretty solid. And and, certainly, if you wanna take on a little bit less risk, you can earn a little bit less rewards. So, know, if you just deploy to Aave or Uniswap, both extremely battle test DeFi mechanisms, I think you can earn another percent or two or something like that, couple percent…

1:10:53 Dave @DCBK2LA: Yeah. Like, this... That... That's literally what I'm thinking. You know what I mean? It's like, nope. Like, people at the end of day are genuinely not gonna care, like, about all this shit. Like, I feel like we get lost to, like... Or or or at least maybe me, but, like, per se, like, I don't wanna speak for anybody else, but, like, I get stuck in this echo chamber where I'm just like, is that really what's…