0:18:22 NatNat @Natnatx007 (speaker unconfirmed): From my perspective, it's strange. It may be different, but followers is... I'm not impressed by followers. I'm not impressed by views. I'm more impressed on what this guy is actually saying. And when I saw him, I I believe that was on probably, you know, at his peak before the downfall began, but it didn't really make sense what he was saying. So I was, like, kinda turned off from him from the beginning when I saw…

0:18:55 Kool @koolcryptovc (speaker unconfirmed): No. On that that that... So at the beginning, it was always like this. At the beginning, it was like us, humble dude, family guy, churchgoing guy, all that stuff at the beginning. The first two years, I think, at the beginning, it was humble dude. He got to the clinic early. He was helping people make money. He was doing the right thing. He was doing what he was supposed to. That change came after the money came…

0:19:25 NatNat @Natnatx007 (speaker unconfirmed): Yeah. That's probably around the time I picked up knowing about him because I didn't know that prior to then. So good stuff, Cole. I had no idea.