0:27:02 Landy @CryptoLandy: Well, I'm sure you saw on Friday and then over the weekend a little bit all of the, I guess, hand wringing about the CDS, which is, you know, your your debt spread. Right? So credit default swaps going up, which is essentially, like... When you think about it, like, against the crash going up on various tickers, clean spark and a few others. Right? Even even SpaceX and a and a couple of others just starting to go…

0:30:58 Ryan @Rlad1776: Hey, Landy. Are you talking credit default swaps, or are you talking SOFR?

0:31:02 Landy @CryptoLandy: Credit default swaps on specific tickers rose aggressively, and that was the talk from Thursday, Friday through the weekend.