0:15:02 Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yep. So there's a multitude of ways, but the main one is just staking, and then you gain voting power. And when you vote for what's called the 27 super representatives, which are the validators of the of the network, You vote for the validators that then vote for which direction the chain goes in. So if they do, like, a a major upgrade, it goes to a vote. I think that is gonna get very competitive because we…

0:16:59 Dave @DCBK2LA: So the DeFi game is actually... It sounds pretty strong from where... I guess, like, from listening to you now. Like, I guess just being in the Sunpump ecosystem, a lot of times, like, when you just see the meme coin stuff, you don't really see, like, the DeFi aspect of a lot of things. But sounds like there's some there's some pretty built out stuff over there.

0:17:15 Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yeah. I use it as my home base, and it's, like, my personal bank. And then if I wanna go play around on other chains, I I just can borrow from my own assets and then send you an exchange, swap it, play around. That's why when Trump came out, I was like, oh, I don't really know about... It just makes it so I don't have to touch my core portfolio that's over there. Yeah. So I can... But it's really useful. It's fast…