0:14:50 Dave @DCBK2LA: Sandeep, tell us, how do you use Tron, like, for passive... I'm genuinely asking. No bullshit. Like, how do you actually... Like, you are seeing passive income on Tron. Is it staking the TRX? Like, what what what are you doing exactly?

0:15:02 Sunny D @dylN0chill: Yep. So there's a multitude of ways, but the main one is just staking, and then you gain voting power. And when you vote for what's called the 27 super representatives, which are the validators of the of the network, You vote for the validators that then vote for which direction the chain goes in. So if they do, like, a a major upgrade, it goes to a vote. I think that is gonna get very competitive because we…

0:16:59 Dave @DCBK2LA: So the DeFi game is actually... It sounds pretty strong from where... I guess, like, from listening to you now. Like, I guess just being in the Sunpump ecosystem, a lot of times, like, when you just see the meme coin stuff, you don't really see, like, the DeFi aspect of a lot of things. But sounds like there's some there's some pretty built out stuff over there.